Would you buy a Government Motors vehicle?

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Thor96	Would you buy a Government Motors vehicle?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 7326 (06/16/09 6:40 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None As we were winding our way through Mississippi on vacation we were listening to a talk show, obviously Southern Style, and subject was the Obama takeover of GM and Chrysler, and giving UAW such a large chunk of ownership. One caller commented that Honda/Nissan/Toyota have profitable plants in USA, non union and doing well. So now we can say a Honda/Nissan/Toyota is Built in America, BY Americans. What will happen to the loyalty of so many GM fans? Would you buy a Government Motors vehicle? (Result) Yes, I will continue to buy GM Yes, I will continue to buy Chrysler I'm switching to Ford I'm switching to Honda/Nissan/Toyota made in America by Americans.
Hawkster318		#1	[-]
Posts: 4921 (06/16/09 8:43 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Not a complete set of options here. Alan in Wisconsin Curio and Relics Firearms Forum Swiss Rifles Honda Express and ExpressII Forum Zeughaus Hawkster
AlleyOop007		#2	[-]
Posts: 1303 (06/16/09 8:54 AM) Contributing Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Looks like I'm the first to vote. My vote is a qualified yes, if GM continues to make a full sized Silverado extended cab. (Actually, I'm old enough to accept the fact that my current 2002 P/U may be the last I'll buy in my lifetime since my Chevys seem to operate satisfactorily for an average of 20 years. ) PS - Our other vehicle is a 2006 4-cylinder Hyundai Santa Fe which we will probably replace in kind when the time comes since Hyundai is going to reissue the 4-cylinder model in 2010. AlleyOop007 NRA Life Member since 1969 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." - Dwight D. Eisenhower Last Edited By: AlleyOop007 06/16/09 10:14 AM. Edited 1 times.
Thor96		#3	[-]
Posts: 7330 (06/16/09 9:12 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hawkster318 wrote: Not a complete set of options here. Okay, what's your other option. I can't edit the poll, but you can state your choice and reason. Revival of the Moped? When all else fails, BLAME BUSH! Last Edited By: Thor96 06/16/09 9:14 AM. Edited 1 times.
SW28fan		#4	[-]
Posts: 17 (06/16/09 9:57 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm already driving a Ford and the truck before the current one was a Ford. Είναι ελληνικά σε με
Hawkster318		#5	[-]
Posts: 4922 (06/16/09 10:22 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm a Dodge Boy since rebellion. (Folks were Ford Trucks and Buick Cars). I've done work for all the Automakers and wouldn't buy a GM then or now. Too early to tell what will have to Daimler Chrysler Fiat. I think I saw something about a Government By-Back program for older vehicles that weren't good on gas. If this is so, I could see it being contingent upon buying a GM product. I think my option would be. (e) Cheap and Used Alan in Wisconsin Curio and Relics Firearms Forum Swiss Rifles Honda Express and ExpressII Forum Zeughaus Hawkster
Thor96		#6	[-]
Posts: 7332 (06/16/09 1:19 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hawkster318 wrote: I think I saw something about a Government By-Back program for older vehicles that weren't good on gas. If this is so, I could see it being contingent upon buying a GM product. I think my option would be. (e) Cheap and Used I wonder what they would give me for my old 82 Dodge 4x4. But then, it's probably a better vehicle that what they would make me buy in the trade. Hawk, I like your last option. But watch the price of used vehicles go up. I don't think most people want one of the new Obamabiles. When all else fails, BLAME BUSH!
velvetnsteel		#7	[-]
Posts: 2717 (06/16/09 2:01 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I haven't bought new since 1987. Used and cheap is my only choice......................... Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
BWCRITCH		#8	[-]
Posts: 549 (06/16/09 3:57 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have 2 fords, a Honda, and a Nissan. I bought the Nissan because of consumer ratings, and I liked it over everything else except the Toyota, but a few features on Nissan made me go with them. I find it stupid to bail out a company, who if they had a better product, and had CEO's who where not trying to get everything for nothing would have been just fine. Besides with as many Toyota, Nissan and Honda plants here in the US, it is not like we are going to miss GM.
Hawkster318		#9	[-]
Posts: 4923 (06/16/09 5:24 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	U.A.W. ~ I lived in Flint Michigan before moving to Wisconsin. I worked in a position where I went into the plants (Ford, GM and Chrysler) on almost a daily basis. There was definitely a need for the Union at a certain period of time, but that has long passed. I saw an Engineer sit around waiting for 2 weeks, unable to work in his office while waiting for union electricians unplug his computer from the wall. Then other union employees had to move it to his new office location. Then another wait for the electricians to plug the power in. 1 month to move a computer system 100 yards withing the same building. That is a small example of why a truck costs $50K. Alan in Wisconsin Curio and Relics Firearms Forum Swiss Rifles Honda Express and ExpressII Forum Zeughaus Hawkster
IZH27		#10	[-]
Posts: 1449 (06/16/09 7:36 PM) Contributing Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	From now on cars will be used BMW's that I will wrench on as much as possible. High quality and reasonable parts available for the home mechanic. With 7 in the family, I need a large vehicle. I have a 99 Suburban 2x4 right now and will keep it going ALAP. I'd really like another Suburban but really don't like that it's a government thing now. I don't want to go 15 passenger van. I may end up looking at a Ford Excursion 4x4 in the future. Mileage is worse though. "Remove far from me falsehood and lying; give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with the food that is needful for me, lest I be full and deny you and say, "Who is the Lord?" or lest I be poor and steal and profane the name of my God.". Proverbs 30:8-9
velvetnsteel		#11	[-]
Posts: 2718 (06/17/09 6:58 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	My second car is a 1993 Jeep Cherokee with ~235,000 miles on it. Only work done has been normal maintainence, and replacing the alternator at about 210,000. No rust at all on the body. I love the Cherokees from mid '80s to mid '90s. Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
HerrMesser		#12	[-]
Posts: 410 (06/17/09 10:31 AM) Active Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The 99 GMC sierra truck is the first new vehicle that I have bought since 1974. Wife is driving her mother's 04 ford so odds are I just might not live long enough to buy another new truck. The 99 only has 105k miles on it and most of that is driving to Wyoming and back. Rad NRA Benefactor Member AMA Life Member
dirty jim		#13	[-]
Posts: 1524 (06/17/09 5:23 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	i'll continue to buy used gm & used land rovers. the other stuff i have no use for. i've owned several fords but only because they were practicaly free, there's nothing wrong with them mechanically but i've never warmed up to any of their bodystyles. Honda/Nissan/Toyota are assembled in america, if the japanese opened their market to american cars i might consider owning a used one but i still wouldn't buy a new one proud member of the Hillbilly Gunsmithing Guild
BWCRITCH		#14	[-]
Posts: 551 (06/17/09 7:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	dirty jim wrote: Honda/Nissan/Toyota are assembled in america, if the japanese opened their market to american cars i might consider owning a used one but i still wouldn't buy a new one The way I feel about that is, at least US labor is used to assemble a lot of them on US soil. Besides GM has stuff built in Canada and then sold here, so what is the big differences.
Flhunter		#15	[-]
Posts: 19335 (06/17/09 7:13 PM) Owner Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm a maybe. If GM stays here and Americans are working in the plant then yes.
AlleyOop007		#16	[-]
Posts: 1306 (06/17/09 10:40 PM) Contributing Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	BWCRITCH wrote: dirty jim wrote: Honda/Nissan/Toyota are assembled in america, if the japanese opened their market to american cars i might consider owning a used one but i still wouldn't buy a new one The way I feel about that is, at least US labor is used to assemble a lot of them on US soil. Besides GM has stuff built in Canada and then sold here, so what is the big differences. My 2002 Silverado is "American" made (assembled in Hamilton, Ontario) so remember that Canada is in North America. AlleyOop007 NRA Life Member since 1969 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
HerrMesser		#17	[-]
Posts: 412 (06/18/09 8:32 AM) Active Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	My sierra was made about 60 miles west of me at Ft Wayne, IN and it only took about 3months to put it together. They had problems with the plastic for the sportside bed. Rad NRA Benefactor Member AMA Life Member
velvetnsteel		#18	[-]
Posts: 2721 (06/18/09 9:37 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The real ownership of all these firms is so convoluted you don't really know who owns what. With all the dirt we are discovering these days maybe BO owns a piece of all the 'foreign' makers that build here. If he doesn't, he will. Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
BWCRITCH		#19	[-]
Posts: 552 (06/18/09 3:54 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	velvetnsteel wrote: The real ownership of all these firms is so convoluted you don't really know who owns what. With all the dirt we are discovering these days maybe BO owns a piece of all the 'foreign' makers that build here. If he doesn't, he will. That is why I feel it is more important to know where something is built, not owned.
sully		#20	[-]
Posts: 621 (06/25/09 3:11 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thor, change the options. My answer is, no thanks, never driven anything but Fords and ole Henry would be proud that his company didn't take any taxpayer bailout money. So, I'll stick to my Ford's "Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so!" Ronald Reagan