Fixing another botched-up "BUBBA" Sporter, this time an Arisaka 99.

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mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...	Fixing another botched-up "BUBBA" Sporter, this time an Arisaka 99.	Lead	[-]
Posts: 36 (05/12/09 1:27 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Hi folks, back again. I found this Arisaka 99, 7.7 Jap, at another garage sale. It was so ugly and screwed up that I had to buy it and fix it right, or sell it to someone else for them to fix right, or part it out. So, I bought it for 50 bucks, and now am planning to do an honorable job of re-finishing, and re-functioning, and make it worthy for deer hunting here in Texas. I will test fire it first, soon as I find some ammo for it. I normally lash the rifle to a spare tire on the ground, and use a lanyard string to fire it. Here are the photos of this mess. This is my first Arisaka, and know little of one. It sure looks like a copy of a Mauser 98. I re-did a Mauser (# last fall and you all sure helped me with it. I plan to do the same here with this one. The stock is a FAJEN, and looks like very good wood and tight in-letting. However the cheek pad is for a left handed shooter and must be sanded off for me in order to presently get a sight picture. No recoil pad ,hmmmmm. The bore is chromed, looks bright. The bolt-face is chromed also, looks fine and firing pin tip looks fine. The safety works, and the trigger dry fires fine. I will try to use the iron sights, but if I can't see them, then I will mount a scope. This decision will be made after the stock work,so I can look down the sights, which is presently imopssible due to the stock being for a "lefty". So, please comment as your expertise is the only way I can make something out of this.
Thor96		#1	[-]
Posts: 7055 (05/12/09 1:51 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Chuck, how do you get into these deals? Just lucky I guess. I've had a M38, 6.5x?? can't remember. It was a mighty fine rifle and I wouldn't have even sold it except I was just spread too thin. IMO they are tighter than the European Mausers. Slick. Be glad that rifle is already set in a Monte Carlo, even if you do have to sand the cheekpiece. The Arisaka is not easy rifle to inlet and bed. Sounds like you've got the making of a fine rifle, once you clean up Bubba. You said, "Here are the photos of this mess", but they didn't come through. Try again. We wanna see. When all else fails, BLAME BUSH!
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...		#2	[-]
Posts: 37 (05/12/09 1:57 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thor, hope this works. I have the photos on my profile album, but can't seem to get them into this reply,,,here is another try.
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...		#3	[-]
Posts: 38 (05/12/09 2:01 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Did not go thru,,,,again. I click the icon link above, the 5th from right one, all the rifle photos then appear, like a slide show,,, looks like they are in the reply, but aren't.
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...	photos	#4	[-]
Posts: 39 (05/12/09 2:22 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	another try
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...		#5	[-]
Posts: 40 (05/12/09 2:26 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mark, you know the old adage, "give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, feed him for life". I could have you send me the photos and I could put them on for you. Instead, let me walk you through the procedure. Once you learn it, you'll find it easy. 1. At the top of the screen, there is a YUKU bar with small print options. Click on "Images". 2. Next screen, you will see option to "Create Album". Click it. You will have option to give the album a name, like "Machine Gun". 3. Having done that, next screen, click on "upload files". 4. Next screen gives you about 5 options to "browse". Click on "browse", which takes you to your own computer. 5. Find the files and click on them, one at a time. If you want more, after those first 5 are uploaded, go back to "upload files" and repeat the procedure. If you have another set of files you want to upload, go back to "create album" and work through the same procedure. NOW THEN. Next step is to down load photos to the post. At the top of the "Posting" screen you will see an icon which will indicate "Insert Image" when you pass the glad Thor, these are your words,,,,, I'm trying,,,,, my photos are in my Yuku album. I ckick the icon ",insert icon, and the carosel of photos appear above my message. I click post, the msg goes thru, the carosel of picts does not,,,,,,
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...		#6	[-]
Posts: 41 (05/12/09 2:29 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...		#7	[-]
Posts: 42 (05/12/09 2:34 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well, Well, Well!!! Answered my own question. You have to individually select each photo from the album! OK, fire away. I surely hope someone will learn from this,,,besides me. Sorry for the bandwidth space waste, but the problem now solved as long asI remember the "sequence" of this posting photos. Just gotta do it more! That's the trick. Thanks for you patience,,,,,,
SAC22PPC		#8	[-]
Posts: 2123 (05/12/09 8:19 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	that can be restored. a wood rasp would be the tool for the cheek peice. be careful if you have never used one before because you can really mess up your stock fast. i recommend a long rasp rather than an all purpus shot one. SAC22PPC
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...		#9	[-]
Posts: 44 (05/12/09 8:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks SAC for the "heads up". I have a really large round rasp, and a flat rasp in my file drawer. Most all my files are for metal. I was thinking of using a sanding disc for the faster removal, then switching to finer sand paper. I have a bench belt sander that I acquired at a garage sale, and haven't used it as of yet. I will take the cheek off so it looks like a normal stock. Then use medium and fine paper to sand down the leftside till I can get a great sight picture. The last stock that I sanded down was last fall, and all turned out good, as I was not in a hurry. I will work on it slowly until I get the "bug" to quit screwing around with it, and finish it. I do not like the front of the stock at all, and plan on sanding the sharp front to a rounded end. Then see if a piece of notebook paper can be slipped under the barrel and slid back to the receiver, assuring me that the barrel is truly free floating. The in-letting of this Fajen stock is really nice and tight quality. How do I say it's a Fajen? Well the butt plate signature says so. I don't remember if Fajen is still in business anymore. I remember them from the '60's.
velvetnsteel		#10	[-]
Posts: 2633 (05/13/09 11:25 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Looks like another discount shop winner for you there, Sir!! If you had that belt sander up and running, that would be my choice for knocking off the major part of that cheekpiece. Will make short work of it, but you need to be very careful that you don't bump the belt with another part of the stock, as it will remove material quickly where you don't want it to, also. But you already know that !!! Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
SAC22PPC		#11	[-]
Posts: 2125 (05/13/09 11:40 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	midway owns them now, i dont know how their buying fajen was configured. dont know if its just the name, or name and machinery or what. you might try a backward slant to the end of the forend, or even try a forendtip. when you freefloat the barrel be sure to try it with just a little pressure on the barrel. i have found the wood to flex just a tiny bit and contact the metal. in a hunting situation you want some insurance that things are right. i have only carved one stock, and dont want to do another! i think its in my profile, its a tiger maple stock, it is in the "2006" folder. i goofed it up on the reciever inletting. made it too far foraward so the pistolgrip eneded up toooooo long. virtuly all of that work was with rasps. oh if your rasps are rusted they are toast at least on hardwood. i dont recall the name of the sander i have seen, it has a long narrow belt. i have seen pictures of one being used on a stock and polishing a barrel. if you ever carve a stock beware! i had a two month long attack of carpal tunnel! its hitting me this morning. SAC22PPC
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...		#12	[-]
Posts: 45 (05/13/09 6:46 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks VELVET STEEL and SAC22PPC for your advice. I will follow it religiously. The only part mising is the "rear" trigger bolt. It is very similar to the front trigger bolt, but needs to be about 1/8inch longer. Fine threads on the end of it. I will check at the gun show for one. From what I have learned so far, the type 99 action is very, very strong. The ammo I will use is what I find at the gun show, or what I order from Midway, etc. I'll get at least 2 boxes. My presumption is that this bolt action is as strong as any Mauser 98 action. Sure hope so. It will be around 2 weeks or so till I get to rasping and sanding the stock. You see, I just got my pontoon boat re-powered with a Yamaha 50 hp 4 stroke, and it is fishing season here on Cedar Creek Lake, Texas. Time to blow the cobwebs off the Abu-Garcia Ambassadeur reels!! Again thanks for the help. Chuck
velvetnsteel		#13	[-]
Posts: 2637 (05/14/09 6:12 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yep, the type 99 action is very strong. Not a bad gun overall. The safety is very cumbersome: that is my biggest dislike. And as Thor stated, it is a very hard action to inlet a stock for. I have had 3. One chambered in .308 Winc, which I sold. My wife has the 7.7 her Dad used all his hunting life. Has killed MANY whitetails. A pic of it is in my 'sporter' album. The other one I still have is one rechambered to 300 Savage. You will get good service from this one. Be prepared the first time you light her up though, as it will give your shoulder a harder thumping than the 7 X 57. Long live the Swedish Mauser!! Last Edited By: velvetnsteel 05/14/09 6:15 AM. Edited 1 times.
Thor96		#14	[-]
Posts: 7069 (05/14/09 7:02 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thor, these are your words,,,,, I'm trying,,,,, When I saw this, I thought, Oh man. "Why did he have to bring me into this". Then I see you got the photos posted, so now I'll simply say, "I taught Chuck how to do that". Hey, I'm still fighting a generator, 6-8 gallons of gas a day, and just lucky to get on line. We got street lights, and neighbor across street has lights, but our side still dead. Chuck, I don't know about the chrome part, but some guys punch the chamber out to 30-06, and shooting 7.7 bullets, call it a 7.7x06. My first live experience with this was a guy next to me trying to shoot regular 7.7 ammo. Kept blowing shoulders, as in brass separations. I suggested to him that it might have been rechambered, and advised he take it to gunsmith to have it slugged. But he kept shooting. Scared me so much I moved to other end of the firing line, and I submitted him for the Darwin award. Finally, he went to town and bought 30-06 ammo. Came back, and though that 308 bullet rattled down that 7.7 barrel, and groups were lousy, the brass chambered up good and no more blown shoulders. That's a hard way to find out a rifle has been rechambered. When all else fails, BLAME BUSH!
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...		#15	[-]
Posts: 46 (05/14/09 7:02 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks velvetnsteel. I kinda figured figured this rifle will kick like my 8mm x 57 mod 48A Yugo Mauser. I won't be happy about that, but will use a "slip-over" recoil pad to sight in with. I want to keep the Fajen buttplate, as it is how I found it, and is presently the prettiest part of the rifle. That's kinda funny, the buttplate the prettiest part, but true at this time in it's life.
velvetnsteel		#16	[-]
Posts: 2638 (05/14/09 11:14 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I like those old Fajen stocks. That is the brand that is on all 3 that I spoke of earlier. I wish they had never gone out of business. Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
dirty jim		#17	[-]
Posts: 1491 (05/15/09 4:59 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	looks like a good project. i usually use a woodrasp when shaping but a big belt sander will also work. it might also be a good project to try out rust bluing on too. proud member of the Hillbilly Gunsmithing Guild
mrchuck.parallaxscurioa...		#18	[-]
Posts: 47 (05/16/09 6:16 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I found a rear trigger housing screw for it. An old codger friend of mine in Mabank, TX had one. Amazing! Thor, your advice on "just maybe the breech has already been reamed out for a 30-06 is going to get checked out quickly. I will try a 30-06 round, and see if it will chamber. I will try and find a loose round of the 7.7 jap caliber and do the same. Since someone had already started this sporterizing, just maybe the rifle's caliber has already been changed. This sure sounds plausible to me. There was something about that the American Soldiers being also able to shoot the 7.7 jap caliber thru American Garand's 30-06 caliber, but the Japs could not shoot the 30-06 round thru their Arisaka 99 7.7 Jap caliber. Isn't this correct?? I'll let you know the results as soon as I find some ammo.
velvetnsteel		#19	[-]
Posts: 2643 (05/17/09 12:40 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I would question trying the 7.7, with its .311 bullet thru the .308 bore . May be true that it was tried however. Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
Thor96		#20	[-]
Posts: 7120 (05/17/09 2:03 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	velvetnsteel wrote: I would question trying the 7.7, with its .311 bullet thru the .308 bore . May be true that it was tried however. The Arisaka is pretty strong. It would create lots of pressure, but I believe the Arisaka is up to it. War is war. When all else fails, BLAME BUSH!