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enfieldphile

Mounting a Loooong Target Scope on a Swiss

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(09/20/08 6:30 PM)

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Gentlemen:

Mounting a classic, long target scope (internal adjustments) on a rifle barrel can be a real problem when the correct mount blocks are not @ hand.

I have a Himmerli 300 Meter Match Rifle, caliber .308 Winchester. It is factory D&T'ed on the barrel for scope blocks. I built one of the clamp-on adapter mount/bases to use a 36X B&L scope with rimfire blocks on the barrel. Worked perfect, but the scope was quite high-mounted. see pic below (gun is on a SEB rest).

I recently acquired a Redfield 3200 24X

The only set of Redfield Big-Bore Scope Bases I have in my parts stash are two very different heights! I could have had a set of custom blocks made, but I choose a different route.

Here's what I did:

I found that a Weaver # 46 not only matched the barrel profile, but the holes lined up perfectly for the rear base!

I only had to drill one additional hole in a second Weaver # 46 for the front base.

Next, I attached a set of Burris Signature Zee Rings (W/ the floating, Synthetic Inserts) to the bases, and mounted my Redfield 3200 24X scope to it. Yes, I do have the correct rings for the Redfield 3200, and no, they ain't fer sale!

I repaired to the range w/ the box of various inserts, ready to do some work to get it bore sighted. I could not believe it! It was about "dead nuts" right from the git go!

With my ugly mug firmly on the rifles cheek-piece, my eye lined right up w/ the scope eyepiece...and get this, i don't even have to remove the front globe sight! The scope must be lined up w/ the front aperture insert. It couldn't get any better then this...or could it? Yep, it gets better!

With 0/0 inserts, it shot 2 inches high @ 100 yards, and 1 inch left (there was a stiff cross wind blowing from right to left). A few clicks on each turret, and it pinwheeled the X ring!

I had a spare set of Burris Signature Zee rings (medium height) in my parts stash, the pair of bases cost me $5.00 + tax.

Any comments? Has anyone else ever had such a situation before, if so, how did you handle it?

"I love it when a plan comes together" George Peppard

procrastinator43

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(09/20/08 6:47 PM)

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Beautiful!!
I like the Redfield set up by far.

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enfieldphile

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(09/20/08 7:09 PM)

procrastinator43 wrote:
Beautiful!!
I like the Redfield set up by far.

Thanks! I got the rifle 10 months ago @ a local gun show. It came w/ the correct PH peep sight and palm rest too. All the club guys had looked it over, but the price tag scared them off. I negociated it down to less then 1/2 the tagged price. The Bronze, hook buttplate was missing. I put on a Morgan adjustable pad.

I agree, the Redfield just looks "right" on the rifle. Also, now my cheek sits on the cheek piece, and is right in line w/ the scope eye piece. Everything just "lined up" correctly the first time.

The range gunstore had individual Weaver # 46's for $2.50 each. I later noticed that wally-world has 2 Weaver 46's in a packaged set for the Savage bolt rifles @ $6.95

wkato

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(09/23/08 6:43 AM)

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Beautiful rifle which ever way you go. I tend to like the 2nd setup.

Wes

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Frogpuddle

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(09/26/08 9:48 PM)

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Hmmmmmmmmm......... I sure like the looks of your solution better than mine, but I don't think I should D&T the barrel of my zfk55. What I have done looks awfully gawky, but it serves to put a contemporary Unertl on the Swiss Sniper in place of the short low powered original scope.

Frog

Hawkster318

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(09/26/08 10:44 PM)

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Frog,

I remember that setup.

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Frogpuddle

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(09/27/08 8:17 AM)

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Hawk,

You remember having been in Michigan?!!!

I thought that by now all that Wisconsin cheese and beer would have wiped clean your memory slate.

Best,

Frog

Hawkster318

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(09/27/08 11:18 AM)

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Fat from the Brats are taking their toll.

Spent the morning out on Devil's Lake and forgot to take any fishing equipment. Had an enjoyable picnic breakfast of rootbeer and smoked sausage with my 8yo.

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enfieldphile

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(09/27/08 10:25 PM)

Frogpuddle,

Your solution may not be Puuuuuuurrrrrrrty, but, it gets the job done!

The only real disadvantage to high-mount solutions is you have no cheek weld.

My first scope base/mount to get the B&L 36X mounted; only places the scope 1/2 higher then normal. That 1/2 inch gap totally messes up cheek weld!

I'm just glad the Himmerli came to me w/ the barrel already D&T'ed for scope blocks.

ArchFluffy

Go long!

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(10/01/08 10:56 AM)

I love it, enfield!

I think the long vintage scope goes so well with the rifle.

It has a good look to it.

-ArchFluffy

enfieldphile

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(10/01/08 5:07 PM)

ArchFluffy,

Thank you sir!

frogpuddle has that sweet unertl scope on his rifle.

I just looked up the 1979 MSRLP on Unertl's best scope, the 36X Programmer-200. Ready for this? $317.00!!!! The pain, oh the pain! Take that $317.00, add $1000.00, and you MIGHT buy one today.

I know, what kind of $$ was I making in 1979? Still, I say: "The pain, oh the pain!"

The 1979 price on the 24X Redfield 3200 was $296.50, the one in the pic cost me $500.00 delivered (perfect condition, with rings, caps, etc) last month.