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(06/29/09 1:23 PM)

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The 8 cap-and-tax Republicans…and the 44 Democrats who voted no

By Michelle Malkin • June 26, 2009 10:52 PM

Introducing the GOP's Cap-And-Tax 8…

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(06/29/09 9:48 PM)

Note, the republicans are mostly from "blue" states. Wolves in sheeps clothing.

"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so!"
Ronald Reagan

BWCRITCH

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(06/30/09 5:14 AM)

I really do not care so much that 8 Republicans voted for the bill, because there where a lot of Demicrats who voted for it, and even if all the Republicans voted no, you now know where everyone stands.

wapari

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(06/30/09 12:24 PM)

In the overall picture of things in the USA, you mean that's it? Only 8? I'm sorry but from my perspective we wouldn't be in this position if there were only 8! There are many more, up to and including all the idiotic Obama voters! How's all that "hope and change" working out for ya?

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(06/30/09 1:29 PM)

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Let's see what the Senate does with it. Most overwhelming to me is they way Dems slipped in an extra 300 pages to the original 1200 pages, the night before. Look folks, I'm not a speed reader and won't even tackle the 1200, let alone try to read 300 pages in just a few hours before voting. How can anybody vote for something so dense.

I think there should be a rule that no bill may be amended less than 30 days before voting. Not only would it slow up the damage, but it would also stop this idiotic trend of Dems slipping something in at the last minute. Does anybody have any idea what's in those 300 pages?

You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but an old dog can teach the pups a few tricks". Thor

wapari

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(06/30/09 2:09 PM)

Well pointed out however its' been done before and most recently. How many pages was the stimilus bill that was voted on and nobody read in its' entirety? How can somebody vote for something so dense? Very siimple, those that vote on it are DENSE! I like your suggestion, along with many others that I have seen throughout the years however, reality sets in real quick and distroys it all. Till then, back to the good 'ol hope and change.

BWCRITCH

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(06/30/09 3:51 PM)

Thor96 wrote:
Let's see what the Senate does with it. Most overwhelming to me is they way Dems slipped in an extra 300 pages to the original 1200 pages, the night before. Look folks, I'm not a speed reader and won't even tackle the 1200, let alone try to read 300 pages in just a few hours before voting. How can anybody vote for something so dense.

I think there should be a rule that no bill may be amended less than 30 days before voting. Not only would it slow up the damage, but it would also stop this idiotic trend of Dems slipping something in at the last minute. Does anybody have any idea what's in those 300 pages?

This is like 1986 all over again. For any class 3 guys here.

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(07/01/09 7:00 AM)

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wapari, in our denominational conventions, any major motion or by law change must lay on the table overnight. Usually the change is circulated early in the meeting, like Monday, and not voted on until Wednesday or Thursday. I'm talking simple paragraph motions, a page or two at most, not 300 pages. That much should have a minimum of a week. Neither the bailout, stimulus or this bill had enough time to read. AND, the Dems are purposely keeping things from the GOP until the last minute so they don't have time to read and study. So much for bipartisanship. And they accuse the GOP of obstructionists? Why not, when you are not allowed time to read the bill?

You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but an old dog can teach the pups a few tricks". Thor

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(07/01/09 7:35 AM)

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Most of the time the legislators themselves don't read the materials they vote on unless it really strikes their hot button, or they know they are going to have to defend their vote. Most of the time a staffer reads it and advises their boss of the main points and tells them how they should vote.

Most of the time it is a staffer that actually writes the legislation that is introduced. Not the legislator themselves. These characters don't have time to take care of the real business, what with the press conferences and photo ops and dalliances with female staffers and all the other crap they go through in a days time.

The power under the constitution will always be in the people. It is intrusted for certain defined purposes, and for a certain limited period, to representatives of their own choosing; and, whenever it is executed contrary to their interest, or not agreeable to their wishes, their servants can and undoubtedly will be recalled.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Bushrod Washington, Nov. 10, 1787

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