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Odd Mauser barrels at Gun Parts |
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Posts: 2483 (03/23/09 7:15 PM) MODERATOR |
FYI - Gunparts Corp has some odd chambering large ring mauser barrels in stock. .17 Remington, 7.5 X 55 Swiss, .348 Winchester, .22-250 by Delcour at a
reasonable price. They have ER Shaw in .22-250 and .25-06.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/products.asp?chrMasterModel=1780zBARRELS&MC=
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Posts: 1451 (03/26/09 6:25 PM) MODERATOR |
that .17 remington looks intersesting
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Posts: 2487 (03/27/09 8:08 AM) MODERATOR |
Yep. I have always been a bit intrigued by the old .348 Winchester also. I almost bought a Mauser in that chambering on GB a few years back but it got too
high.
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Posts: 89 (06/25/09 12:15 AM) |
dirty jim wrote:Will 17rem work with a mauser bolt I thought it was neck down 223.Ive have both the 17 rim fires love shooting them. Arkyhunter |
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Posts: 1531 (06/25/09 7:36 PM) MODERATOR |
arky, the boltface & the extractor will need to be modified to work with a .223 case head.
there are several ways to do it. the easiest way is to solder a bushing to the boltface & extend the tip of the extractor by tig welding then shape it to grab the .223case. you can also have the bolt face welded up the recut for a .223. do a search for odies dad, he has one that was welded up & recut.\ you can also cut the bolt face flat then recut it for a .223 with a toolpost grinder the bush the firing pin hole. i think ut shows how to do this in harold mcfarlands introduction to modern gunsmithing book. you can also cut the bolt for a sako or ar-15 extractor. if you cut it for a sako or an ar extractor i would still leave the mauser extractor in place, just cut the hook off the front. about a year ago there very nice mauser on gunbroker with a shortened receiver that had been converted to .223. it was one of the few rifles that i still kick my self for not buying.
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Posts: 91 (06/25/09 8:06 PM) |
Thank jim for the info I'll check in to it.Maybe give it a try if I can get my hands on a m48 or shorter action I do have soft spot for the 17s. I saw a
17-250 mauser barrel on GB but that would probly be costly to shoot.
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Posts: 1534 (06/25/09 8:36 PM) MODERATOR |
i've been considering building as a 14-221. pac-norn even list them in their chambering or a .14 caliber wildcat based on the 22 hornet.
i have a hornet bolt for a springfield 1903 & a sedgley 22 hornet magazine so i should be able to make it feed
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Posts: 2140 (06/25/09 8:50 PM) |
the 22-250 will eat a barrel up, 17 will be eaten faster.
cost would be ok but barrel live would be very short. in the end its just not worth it anyhow. the bullet while extremely fast would loose its speed very quickly due to its light wheight. if you were looking for a 17 centerfire go with the 17 rem. cases are easy to find and barrel life will not suffer.  SAC22PPC
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Posts: 2732 (06/26/09 11:21 AM) MODERATOR |
You .17 guys will want to look at this one on GB.
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=132499103
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Posts: 414 (06/27/09 10:31 AM) Active Member |
Midway also has blank extractors the you could use if you welded up the bolt face.
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Posts: 519 (06/27/09 11:43 AM) Contributing Member |
Another big problem with the 223 conversion is getting it to feed. The 223 is way smaller than the feed rails can hold. I rigged up a Ruger mini-14 magazine
to work. The mag has the feed rails built in. I'm still working on the project. I am trying to rig up a latch for the magizine. I got one of the
extended extractors but couldn't make it work. I ended up extending the lip on a mil surp extractor. Works fine, but it is a LOT of work.
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Posts: 1537 (06/27/09 9:24 PM) MODERATOR |
the feeding problem might be solved by making or adapting an inner magwell that attatches to either the floorplate or to the bottom metal. i'm working on a
couple of ideas for a 22 hornet springfield & a 22 hornet mauser. the springfield will be easy because i have the inner magwell, spring & follower from
a sedgley, i'm missing a couple of small parts for it but they will be easy to make. for the mauser i'm going to try fitting inner magwell simliar to
what was done on the winchester 54's. a .223 could be done very similar. you may be able to modify the ruger magazine to attatch to the floorplate the same
way the sedgley magwell was done.
here is a link to the patent from sedgley on the sedgley the spring & follwer mount normally, the magwell the mounts on top of the floorplate & it held down by a tab thats faastened ton the floorplate with a machine screw. i'm missing the tab & it also has a spring that attatches to the back of the magwell thats helps hold it forward & blocks off the back part of the original magwell that would now be open. i'm missing that part too, but it will be easy to make. 
how the magwell looks from the top 
the same basic concept could be applied to a .223 by making the inner magazine straight instead of angled or it could adapted to a mauser. another option would be to make a inner magwell similar to the one used on a winchester 54 22 hornet & solder it in place. here is what the win 54 .22 hornet inner magwell & follower look like, i'm going to use a mini mauser mag spring. 
the back flange is to wide & needs to be thinned down to move the inner magwell all the way to the front where it will line up with the mauser feed ramp. the rear flange is wider than it needs to be so there is plenty of room to trim it down flush with the sides of the magazine. 
it needs to move roughly .700 forward to line up with the feed ramp. 
both of the inner magwells & followers wouldn't be hard to make.
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