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Was there a model of the Unique pistol that was officially issued to either French or German forces in WW2? If so, what model and how can military issued pistols be identified, either by proof marks or serial number range?
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Yes there were ...
They were called Pistolet Automatique Unique Modle 17 and made by Manufacture dArmes de Pyrnes Franaises better known by the acronym MAPF. There were three distinct models ... 1. The first model, the civilian model, had a three line legend on the left side of the slide ... line 1, Manufacture d'Armes des Pyrnes Hendaye ... line 2, La Veritable Pistolet Franais 'Unique' ... line 3, Marque Deposee Cal. 7.65mm S.F.M. The slide on the right side was left blank. The grips were of black plastic with "Unique" across the top and a circled lion at the bottom. These had a lanyard staple set in the lower left rear of the grip frame. The serial number was located on the right side of the frame tang at the rear. A small number of these, perhaps about as many as 2,000, were purchased by the French military in 39 and 40. The biggest distinguishing feature to tell if it did go to the military is the safety rivet on the left side of the slide that is located in front and above the the safety lever on the frame that prevented the moving of the safety when holstering of the weapon. 2. Next was the "contract" model ... This has a single line legend on the left side of the slide ... 7.65 Court 9 Coups "Unique". The grips were of black plastic with vertical serrations with an entwined RF for Rpublique Franaise in a circle at the top denoting Republic of France. There were a few that had a bullseye symbol in the upper part of the grip. The serial number was located on the right side of the frame tang. There were approximately 18,000 to 21,000 of these delivered to the military before the Armistice of 22 June, 1940. Serial numbers ended at about 57,000. 3. The last type is the German Occupation Model called the Kriegsmodell (War Model). This model had an exterior case hardened hammer and arched curved grip which gave a more comfortable hold in the shooters hand. The left side of the slide had a two legend line ... line 1, 7.65 Court 9 Coups Unique ... line 2 in smaller lettering; Manufacture DArmes de Pyrnes, Hendaye. These pistols were marked with the Waffenamt Eagle WaA251 and latter WaAD30. The Waffenamt was located on the right tang below the serial number. The grips were black plastic with vertical serrations with 7.65mm 9 Schuss within a circle. Approximately 20,000 of these were made and serail number was ended at 77,000. Patrick |
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Thanks! I guess I'm in the market for one, now that I know what to look for.
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i have the first model you were telling about how do i confirm and how much do you think its worth
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WELCOME to the forum, van. I can't answer your question, but somebody who can will be along I am sure.
Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
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van |
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i hope because i have been researching it for a while and am intrested in finding some reliable information
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I would recommend you get the book; French Service Handguns, 1858-2004, by Eugene Medlin and Jean Huon. Tommy Gun Publications, St. Louis: 2004; it has some
excellent information regarding these weapons and it was written by two very good friends of mine.
Patrick
Vive La République Française, Lebel y Poilu
Verdun 1916: "Ils ne Passeront pas" "On les aura!" Mle.1886 M.93 "Lebel" |
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van |
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where do i get these books
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velvetnsteel |
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Try this link to start with.......
http://www.rayrilingarmsbooks.com/cgi-bin/rrb455.cgi/12491
Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
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1886lebel |
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http://www.gunshowbooks.com/cgi-bin/webc.exe/st_prod.html?p_prodid=GS372227&sid=6K0GLI1R
Patrick
Vive La République Française, Lebel y Poilu
Verdun 1916: "Ils ne Passeront pas" "On les aura!" Mle.1886 M.93 "Lebel" |
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thak you for your advice it was very helpful
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van |
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anyone wishing to buy?
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