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losok.parallaxscurioa...	Ammo for C&R guns made just for us	Lead	[-]
Posts: 28 (01/17/09 5:21 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Just a question here, looking to see if there is any interest in new made just for us CR shooters ammunition. I work very closely with Hunting Shack Montana, and am now having loaded some ammo set up special for the M1 Garand in 30-06, of course it can shoot in any 30-06, but the pressure curve will duplicate M2 ball and the older Ball AP etc. It will have both match type bullets in the line, and hunting bullets in the 150-165gr range. We can maybe go up if we work the curve on the powder right. I am also working on some really nice 6.5X55 match grade ammo with the new Berger VLD bullets in 140gr, that will be loaded to pressures designed for the 96 and still get us velocity in the 2700 or up range. This is possible due to new powders coming on line now that will let the pressure stay low, and velocity high. I am still tinkering with getting some good 8X57 recipes together as well. With all the Milsurp matches and surplus ammo drying up, I am glad they are willing to step in and help us out, we can also get some really nice hunting ammo for some more obscure calibers from them, for decent prices. I am a direct dealer for them, so just hit me with any ideas you might have and I can run it past them. I know that right now we should be able to keep the 30-06 pretty reasonable, and the swede too. I will see what prices work out to be on the others. The 30-06 should be in the 15-20 a box range, or there abouts. The 8mm a similar price, 6.5 also in this range, but the bullets are the big ? there. 7.65 Argy is a bit more at 32 a box. (2400FPS with 180RN, 2600FPS with 150gr) Again, these are just a few of the things they can do, they do load pistol ammo, and rifle calibers up to 50BMG as well.
Jeff7mm		#1	[-]
Posts: 3083 (01/17/09 5:44 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The supply of .303 has dried up except for the occaisonal Pakistani stuff which hangfires. There are a lot of good Enfields out there as well. Hornady has blessed us (thanks Dave Emery) with ammo for about everything including the 8x56R and 6.5 Carcano's Hunting Shack will of course have to compete price wise with them. Diapers and politicians need frequent changing, and for the same reason
SW28fan		#2	[-]
Posts: 857 (01/17/09 5:45 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The 30-06 prices are keeping in line with Remington's UMC ammo. I run CMP Vintage, Springfield and Garand Matches and think there would be a modest demand. I handload for my rifles, but I have the time and have been doing it for 30 odd years. "Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them"
losok.parallaxscurioa...		#3	[-]
Posts: 29 (01/17/09 6:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Forgot to add the 303 to the list. They make a 180gr hunting round, at 2300FPS. It runs about 16 a box. I know this is kind of a niche market, but HSM is a very customer oriented company, and the ammo they produce is match grade stuff. I have shot a lot of their 30-06 bargain 180gr SP and its as tight a shooting round as match ammo I buy. Like I said, I need suggestions of ammo you would like to see, so I can get a full line from them so we can all use it. I think if it goes over even in modest way, it will get some guys into shooting some of the older rifles with ammo that capable of bringing out their best in a safe way. I am also working on a 7mm mauser load too.
Thor96		#4	[-]
Posts: 6052 (01/17/09 9:45 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Since I handload, I'm not interested and would have to say they will have to rise early in the morning and work late into the night to develop a load to beat what I already have for my Swedes, ranging from the 94 Carbine to the 96 long barrel. Never seen a factory load that would shoot cloverleafs or ragged holes. Not bragging of course... just tellin it like it is. Obama's Appointments remind me of a scripture... Song 2:15 Catch the foxes for us, the little foxes that spoil the vineyards. Our vineyards are ripe for the picking.
losok.parallaxscurioa...		#5	[-]
Posts: 31 (01/18/09 9:48 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	While not disputing that most factory loads will not shoot as well as yours. I have shot a lot of HSM ammo, I was trained as an LE sniper, and can vouch for the quality of the ammo. I have shot a lot of groups with their ammo in many configurations that shoot well sub 1/2MOA and when I do my part sub 1/4 minute is not all that hard to shoot on repeated groups. I know a guy who did multiple tests of their 308 ammo and it outshot the gold standard of LE sniper ammo the Fed Gold Medal by a good margin. They specialize in this kind of accuracy, so while no being able to tailor to a specific shooters rifle, they produce ammo of match quality without the price bump that other companies charge.
Thor96		#6	[-]
Posts: 6057 (01/18/09 2:20 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I spoke just out of spunkiness, but in reality, there is no way you can match a factory load to the specific synewave of a rifle. It would be an accident if you did. Obama's Appointments remind me of a scripture... Song 2:15 Catch the foxes for us, the little foxes that spoil the vineyards. Our vineyards are ripe for the picking.
losok.parallaxscurioa...		#7	[-]
Posts: 32 (01/18/09 9:23 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Agreed, Hope I did not come off as upset. I just wanted to let folks know this stuff is not going to be just plinker grade factory ammo, its all loaded to match quality, its the only ammo I buy for hunting or serious shooting now for the calibers they have it in. I still use surplus for plinking or letting other folks shoot my M1s etc, but when the shots have to count this the go to stuff if I dont have a handload for the gun.
Thor96		#8	[-]
Posts: 6068 (01/18/09 10:17 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Awe, I just wanted to ruffle your hair a bit. I can't get close to Blago or Edwards to ruffle their hair, so I have mess with you. In consideration there are a lot of people who don't reload and don't care to get into it, it's a good idea. I was already reloading when I bought my first milsurp, and dies, bullets and brass came with the purchase. So I haven't looked back. When I bought a different chamber, I just automatically bought dies and brass. Now I'm narrowing back down though, selling dies as I sell off the rifles and I'm pretty well back where I started, Swedes and 6mm. Obama's Appointments remind me of a scripture... Song 2:15 Catch the foxes for us, the little foxes that spoil the vineyards. Our vineyards are ripe for the picking.
losok.parallaxscurioa...		#9	[-]
Posts: 33 (01/19/09 12:33 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I will keep my swedes, couple 8mm, and the rest are 30-06, with the exception of the Match M1 built by the USAMU for my Great Uncle when he retired from there, and the first mauser I ever built that is in 270. I had a rem 700 in 270 but needed a 308 sniper rig for work, so I used the action from mine, and had the barrel left. I then turned it down for a turk and built it up. Now I am going to convert the 308 back to 30-06 since I am retired, and each of my girls can get 1/2 of the first centerfire rifle I ever owned. Ammo is so pricey now that I am too cutting back to as few calibers to feed as possible. I like 06 better than 308 anyway. PS I am going to also try to get up some better than average prices on some plinker ammo from Privi and Hot Shot(only the calibers using the Privi Brass) I like handloading too, and just got one of my loads for the 06 adopted by HSM for factory production.
The Double D		#10	[-]
Posts: 69 (01/19/09 10:28 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	How about some 577/450 at 1/2 the price of Ten-X with a proper size bullet. DD ******* To find things Martini go to:Martini Internet Resource List**

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