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Thor96	McCain goes to Washington	Lead	[-]
Posts: 5211 (09/24/08 4:13 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None McCain is breaking from the campaign trail and the upcoming debate in order to go back to Washington to work on the Financial Crisis.. He challenges Obama to join him. So far Obama chooses to continue stumping. "If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!" Ann Coulter
MasterCork		#1	[-]
Posts: 161 (09/24/08 5:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	McCain proved old age and cunning overcome youth and strength. He pulled this over on Barack in how he made the announcement.This might be the only time I agree with the Obama campaign's spin. lol My 3 kids attend Ole Miss and are like most young people focused on what is due tomorrow for class and such. The little town was really geared up, parking very disrupted, traffic diverted etc. My oldest daughter was selected to meet McCain in an education department forum so she is disappointed. Obama and McCain need to be in DC so something gets done.
lid9cog		#2	[-]
Posts: 1166 (09/24/08 5:36 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Twoo less fingers in the pie might help.....
archeomania		#3	[-]
Posts: 815 (09/24/08 10:17 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Two less fingers in the pie might help..... I agree with that. I am sure both points of view will be equally represented by the Republicans and the Democrats who are trying to work up a bipartisan deal to make the bail out work as best as it can given the circumstances. IMO, injecting presidential politics into the negotiations could end up poisoning the well and the stakes are just to high at the moment to let that happen. One thing is for certain, we are witnessing events right now that will alter the trajectory of our nation. Can we rise to meet the challenge or will we sink to new lows of political party bickering? I'd like to think we can unite to meet the challenge.
Thor96		#4	[-]
Posts: 5215 (09/25/08 8:31 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	This is all about strategy. McCain is there now in the presidential meeting, and is already taking leadership. He will come out of this looking like a patriotic leader. Obama will be in ole Miss debating himself, looking like a campaigner. What I really expect to happen, they will begin to make progress today and tomorrow, and then recess for the weekend. McCain will fly back to Ole Miss for the debate, then return to Washington to continue work on the bailout. McCain will look like a hero and Obama will be standing there with egg on his face. Remember, this is the guy who voted "present" 97 times in Illinois. So what is it to miss out on his senatorial duty when our nation is in crisis. "If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!" Ann Coulter
lid9cog		#5	[-]
Posts: 1168 (09/25/08 2:28 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	No, I believe it will look like political grandstanding on John McCain's part. Neither one of these two have showed up for any business in the last couple of months, and all of a sudden, John McCain wants to postpone a debate and help out in Washington? I just edited this and I believe he will show up tomorrow... Last Edited By: lid9cog 09/25/08 2:41 PM. Edited 1 times.
Thor96		#6	[-]
Posts: 5221 (09/25/08 8:51 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	One thing I have come to the conclusion on is that a person anylizes a situation based on his presuppositions. If you don't like McCain, you will say it is posturing. If you like him, you see it as bold integrity and patriotism. yes, I realize the same could be said about Obama. What I do know is that they are both in Washington and hoping for a resolve. Interestingly, politicians on both sides of the aisle continue to chunk rocks at each other. Is it any wonder that Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush? So Bush has approval rating below 30%. Congress has a present approval rating of 17%. That's pitiful. If they can't reach some agreements in the next week, it will totally expose why they have such a poor approval rating. The next few days is going to be very revealing about the character of the two candidates... as well as the Senate and House. "If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!" Ann Coulter
MasterCork		#7	[-]
Posts: 163 (09/25/08 10:41 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The democrats in congress played politics today and looked silly. They claimed a deal was reached to embarass McCain coming to DC. Then when the President had a round table it was revealed that the conservatives in the house are not on board and are willing to take time and see a real plan that does the basics. Seems nobody verified if they were on board. God Bless them! At least it made the market look good for the day. Barney Frank is so worried that people (not all) over extended in homes they cannot afford not being covered it is sickening. Affordable housing is a code word for a special deal for minorities, not working blue collar or white collar folks. Barney does not cry if a guy working in a cube is overextended and loses his home, only those the liberals term, 'denied options to affordable housing', ie urban democrats. Sorry but it is very inconvenient being poor, always has been. Bush continues to fight off a long overdue recession happening on his watch and this real estate devaluation forces the Fed, Treasury and SEC to play along. Interest ratesshould be higher and they are dropping, makes zero sense. McCain responded as a senior senator should. This is a real crisis and Reid and Pelosi lack leadership skills. In my view they even lack common sense. Obama and McCain actually were getting on the same page yesterday, a first in politics during a election, then Obama had to go liberal and want protection for those poor souls Barney Frank is worried about. To the liberal mind lying about your income and credit to get a home is the result of bad lenders not the borrower if you are a poor democrat. The plan on the table this afternoon seems to have had conflicting goals, protecting the taxpayer and keeping the banking and investment industry afloat at the lowest possible cost which almost everyone agrees is needed. But with the conflicting add on transfer of wealth to keep people in homes that the liberals want to reward their life time voters. At least that is how it seemed trying to read those interviewed tonight. McCain reaches across the party lines much to the pain of conservatives to get things done, he is just acting like McCain. Rushing to make a decision on a issue that has been know about for years is a very error likely situation. Is this how we will handle the energy crisis? I am going to Oxford MS tomorrow morning, will be in the Grove on my camo chair with my kids sipping a diet coke watching the big screen outside the hall. Wonder if we will see a debate? I say 40% chance as of 10:30pm tonight. Lots of the kids left town since class was cancelled tomorrow. Their are bands coming in and food, should be fun. Ole Miss is rare, a GOP school, many, many students were wearing McCain buttons at the last football game. Only a few Obama stickers. Cork called my senators today....almost all calls coming in are not to bail out those being foreclosed on and ensure fat cats are not rewarded for failure.
Ydanac		#8	[-]
Posts: 436 (09/25/08 11:43 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think McCain should the crisis team along, and he can send Sara to debate Obama. He could say, something like, "I'll have to let Sara handle this debate, and I have confidence that she can handle it better than Senator Obama, because she has more executive experience. I have no fear of her handling the job." I bet this would really upset Obama. Or maybe he could send Sara along with the comment, Sara can handle this if Barack really does insist on having the debate now instead of postponing it a few days. On the other hand, he can wait for me if Sara scares him. Last Edited By: Ydanac 09/25/08 11:45 PM. Edited 1 times.
velvetnsteel		#9	[-]
Posts: 2169 (09/26/08 6:20 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think both candidates are making stupid mistakes and makin less than presidential moves right now. Everybody feels like they have to 'do something' whether it makes sense or not. I cannot support bailing out the fat cats, and I cannot support a candidate who says one thing and does another. Both of them are doing that. Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
lid9cog		#10	[-]
Posts: 1172 (09/26/08 6:25 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I believe that if this mess in Washington is not solved real soon, John McCain will lose this election, because of it. The problem is not the democraps but the more conserative members within his own party. From what I have read the democraps are agreeing for the most part with the president. John McCain needs to distance himself from these republicans and embrace George Bush! Every one here knows how I feel about President Bush, but the man is right on what needs done, and some members of his own party is destroying it.
Thor96		#11	[-]
Posts: 5227 (09/26/08 7:54 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	WOW you guys were busy while I was sleeping during the night. Lots of good thoughts. For starters, I think Newt Gingrich had a great idea last night, and the pundits are playing right into it. Newt suggests that now that talks have collapsed, McCain should meet with the opposing Republicans to hear their gripes. Remember, he wasn't in favor of a bailout anyway. His going to Washington was to try to rock it out of a rut. McCain and the opposing Republicans can come up with a "No Bailout" proposal and then carry it to the public. Under public pressure, the Democrats will be forced to do something. After all, it's an election year and their jobs are on the line. I am pursuaded that the bulk of America finds a bailout very distasteful. There's got to be another way. Now then, if Newt can just convey that idea to McCain and convince him to go for it, I think it will work. Cork, Some of your ideas seem to support what I'm saying about "no bailout". Barney Frank? I have a comment but it is not cleaned up enough for printing on the forum. "Affordable Housing?". To begin with, build something besides 3 car garage, 4 bath, 5 bedroom with formal dining, family room and formal parlor. If you can afford it, okay, but I certainly can't. Secondly, where do we get off saying affordable housing is a "right". It is not a right. If it is, who granted it? The government? Ah, now we discover the problem. It is the government who determines "rights". The only rights a poor person has is to get off his dead A... and get a job. If he's good enough, he can get a promotion and be able to afford a house. Reid and Pelosi? Give me a break. Both make stupid statements that scare me to think about them being in positions of such power. "McCain reaches across the party lines" Agreed, that's just McCain acting like McCain. It's part of why I support him. He is willing to reach across the aisle. I don't have much confidence in Obama doing that. He will do it only if the other side agrees with him. Ydanac, That is a great idea. Send Sara to debate Obama. She can handle him easy. Anybody who can field dress a Moose and work on a fishing boat, can handle Obama. I thought of it, but was afraid people would laugh. Yes, send Sara to debate Obama.he job." I doubt Obama would be willing to do it. I suspect he may be more scared of Sara than McCain. I would be. lid9cog, There is a naval term captains use going through treacherous waters like ice glaciers, "Steady as she goes". If McCain will do what Gingrich suggests, I think he will come out smelling like a rose. No, he doesn't need to dump the Republicans and embrace Bush. I'm a Bush man as you know, but this time I have to say Dubya does not have a plan the American citizens will back. A bailout will break our back and bring our nation down, I am pursuaded. We need to tighten control on the industry and let some of those entrepenuers sink in their own mess... After we lock up their bank accounts. That money and the fatcat salaries belong to the company and the borrowers who put it in their pocket. Okay, I think I've got it off my chest now. I'll go on now, go to the gym and work out then come home and see what my honey has lined up for me for the rest of the day. "If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!" Ann Coulter
velvetnsteel		#12	[-]
Posts: 2170 (09/26/08 10:31 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I am adamantly opposed to any more 'bailouts' or government interference with the market system. Let some of the the banks fail. They set themselves up for failure, encouraged by a Fed that allows lending with less than a penny reserve on a hundred bucks! This is not going to be pretty no matter where it goes from here. Whatever the government ends up doing is going to be wrong and will end up doing more damage than good. So they should do what they do best: nothing. Where is the bailout package for the working taxpayers who have been carrying this country, tolerating the rich lawyer politicians who don't have a clue how I live, and absorbing the consequences of fat cat CEOs, CFOs, and COOs for the last 50 years????? Where I ask, WHERE ?? One more straw may break the camel's back. The dominoes are going to fall, regardless of what the administration or congress can do. We are in the danger zone already, with inflation and recession happening both at once, an out of control Federal Reserve system, and leadership that can't agree if the sun is shining or not. The ship has broken free of its moorings, and is about to run aground with more than a few casualties. The big hammer is about to fall.........................mark my words. Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
Thor96		#13	[-]
Posts: 5229 (09/26/08 11:07 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	vs, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Let's get back to building our economy on durable goods and resources, not the banking and insurance business. Stop importing junk from China and crank our factories and plants back up that have been closed as the market has been outsourced. As some of you may know, I recently bought a used Honda Helix scooter. Man, I like it. I could have bought one of those cheap Chinese scooters for probably 1/2 the money, but they are having problems with the metallurgy, bearings, etc. My motor will last 75K. Theirs will be lucky to make it 20K. Little doubt we need to deal with some problems in our own factories, but we also need to bring our business back home, not importing junk. Anybody bought a decent scope lately? Probably a vintage scope on eBay. You won't find a good one at WalMart anymore. "Made in China". "If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!" Ann Coulter
wauto		#14	[-]
Posts: 144 (09/26/08 11:25 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm afraid that no matter what they do in Washington the rest of us are in for some rough times. I think it would be prudent to stock up on enough necessities to get by for a while. There are a lot of problems that might occur, a truckers strike over high fuel cost followed by social unrest or riots if the supermarkets don't get deliveries, What if the welfare checks are delayed? With the economy in turmoil the effect of even a small terrorist attack could be very bad for the economy. Don't get me wrong, I'm not scared but I am concerned, There is nothing I can do to affect the big picture but I can do a few things that might help my family and myself. I believe that prayer is the most important thing but beyond that there are practical things I can do to prepare, just in case.
MasterCork		#15	[-]
Posts: 165 (09/27/08 6:30 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	wauto, you are on the same track as me. I am preparing best I can for a really strong recession. We did not experience one after the Tech Bust and now can add the real estate bust to the pain. Stockpiling canned tuna had a return of about 18% in the carter years, inflation is a really painful thing, we will now see inflation with a depressed and flat real estate market a double hit. if someone must relocate their home, now is the time, interest rates will be forced up soon, real inflation I feel is at least 8% now. My young broker does not grasp that I had 18.5% callable bonds in the Carter recession and it was still not enough. Cork Last Edited By: MasterCork 09/27/08 9:47 AM. Edited 1 times.
Thor96		#16	[-]
Posts: 5235 (09/27/08 3:37 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The last couple of posts worry me. Guys, we can't become so pessimistic that we get drug down. Don't let the media and politicians get us down. America can't win if we do that. "If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!" Ann Coulter
MasterCork		#17	[-]
Posts: 168 (09/27/08 7:16 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thor, Pray I am over reacting but I feel like the hard core commie's did when the wall came down. Nothing is happening to make us a producer and not a consumer nation. Only 25 years ago we were a lender now we are a creditor to other countries, especially China. China has so much credit to us they cannot dump us, we as a nation are a bad loan. Lack confidence the leaders can undo these wrongs and get us back towards capitalism with it's rewards and punishments, especially with small businesses. I would cheer up if someone was fighting for the long overdue term limits on every elected official! The GOP let me down when they took over Congress on this issue years ago. Cork
Thor96		#18	[-]
Posts: 5237 (09/27/08 9:47 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well Cork, I agree that it's enough to make a grown man cry, especially if he loves his country. But we've got to keep our head up. We can't let this thing destroy us. The Republicans had a great opportunity, but they fell asleep at the wheel. At a time when we needed leadership in the party, they hid. Gingrich is very capable but he had lost his credibility. In watching Rove on the commentaries during the campaigns, I'm pursuaded he too is capable, but alas, he lost his credibility, thanks to the democraps who continually attacked him. So the Democraps accomplished their goal of destroying the Republican leadership. No chiefs to lead the Indians and the war was lost. "If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!" Ann Coulter
velvetnsteel		#19	[-]
Posts: 2174 (09/28/08 9:28 AM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thor, I am keeping my head up because I am not worried about the outcome. I am however, not sticking my head in the sand either. I contacted both of my Senators and my Congressman to give my input on the bail out, but they aren't listening to us. It is quite obvious they will do what they want anyway. I am just watching with anticipation for the final 'bail out', and many of you know what I am refering to. I'm glad my trust doesn't lie in man and his solutions, but in my savior Jesus Christ. Long live the Swedish Mauser!!
Thor96		#20	[-]
Posts: 5242 (09/28/08 1:38 PM) MODERATOR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	vs, I don't have to guess on that "bail out". It's even better than "Scotty, beam me up". Judging by world events, this could be the days we've been looking for. Rumours of wars and financial crisis all fit. I'm listening for that trumpet. "If Democrats had any brains they'd be Republicans!" Ann Coulter

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