Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

Re: Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

feeds@yuku.com (bayouray) — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:30:21 GMT

Thanks guys.....that does make sense now that it is explained.

Re: Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

feeds@yuku.com (donmarkey) — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:32:54 GMT

Mine it like wagners except I used aluminum. Same embedding principal as Jim described. One of the smiths I know used a fixture to hold the receiver and he trues with a boring bar. The same way he recuts lug seats.
Don

Re: Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

feeds@yuku.com (dirty jim) — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:35:34 GMT

ray, the reason they use brass is because the lapping compound imbeds into the brass because its soft & cutts the steel instead of cutting the brass. if you was to make the tool with steel instead of brass both surfaces would be cut instead of just one
the tool on wangners site should work.

Re: Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

feeds@yuku.com (bayouray) — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:17:57 GMT

Don, I was looking for a truing tool for the inner shoulder. Brownells no longer sells the tool even though they used to. I might try to make one like on Steve Wagner's site but I have a question. He uses a piece of brass that he parts from a rod as the truing surface of the tool. Wouldn't you want something at least as hard as the surface you are trying to true to make a difference? What do you use?

Ray

Re: Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

feeds@yuku.com (donmarkey) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:50:56 GMT

I fit my 98 barrels to the inner torque ring. After truing both the inner ring and the receiver face, I cut the barrel tenon .002 longer. This brings it flush when tighening the barrel but doesn't put and pressure on the barrel.
Don

Re: Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

feeds@yuku.com (SAC22PPC) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:07:54 GMT

this is what i do when rebarreling. its specialized work rebarreling a rifle correctly, althought many guys wing it and get the job done.
on the 98 mauser and those related to it there are two shoulders. inner/outer or primary and secondary. the inner/primary shoulder is the very end of the threaded end of the barrel. the outer/secondary shoulder is the one next to the threads and along the body of the barrel.

idealy you messure the shoulders in the receiver and then lathe turn...

Re: Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

feeds@yuku.com (dirty jim) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:24:53 GMT

there is enough variables in tolerance that you would really need to check the distance from the face of the receiver to the torque shoulder against the distance face of the barrel to the shoulder. you'll need a depth mic. to do this accurately this. a quick & easy way to check is to put a light coating of prussian blue on the face of the barrel & the face of the shoulder then thread it into the action till it bottoms out then remove it & it will be obvious if its seating on...

Re: Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

feeds@yuku.com (Thor96) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:22:51 GMT

Swedes seat against the shoulder. 98 Turks seat against the tenon. Most important is that the tenon seats before the shoulder. You may want to close the airgap on the shoulder, but it is not necessary. Ideally, you get it close but you don't want the shoulder seating before the tenon. I can't say about .002" That sounds arbitrary and may not work.

Tweed on a 1903 Turk reciever

feeds@yuku.com (gil) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:53:15 GMT

can the barrel be threaded into the 03 reciever or is it neccessary to shorten it by I believe .002 as a friend suggests.
thanks
gil