Swede load work-up

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (recon14) — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:14:12 GMT

Thanks guys.....I'll give a 129 spitzer load a try and let you know how it goes. I'll also post a pic of the 129 RN.

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Dubhhawk) — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:04:09 GMT

PB,
H-4350 is my favorite powder after WC852 for the 6.5x55. I use 48-50 grains depending on the rifle with 120 grain bullets. I used 52 of H-4350 in a 6.5x55 Ackley. Thor was right about the IMR-4350. Usually around 2 grains less than the H brand. IMR 4831 works well also. I have found it to be very close burn wise to H-4350.

Have used a lot of 380 also. Still have 6 pounds or so. 44 grains is what I use with 120's. Got up to 46 but was a bit too hot. Used the 44...

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Thor96) — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:40:20 GMT

velvetnsteel wrote:
Thor................those old Pacific loads look pretty healthy for the IMR powders IIRC.

I buy every one of those old books I can find. I think I pulled this one out of a pile at an auction, paid a dollar?

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (velvetnsteel) — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:01:16 GMT

Thor................those old Pacific loads look pretty healthy for the IMR powders IIRC.

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (velvetnsteel) — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:56:41 GMT

IMHO you should be OK using data for 130 grain bullets.

I did find this on Chuck Hawks site:

6.5x55mm SE

120 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet, 47.0 grains H4350 powder, Rem. 9 1/2 primer, Norma case. MV 3000 fps in 23" barrel. MAXIMUM LOAD! (Based on the Nosler Reloading Guide, Fifth Edition.)

125 grain Nosler Partition Spitzer bullet, 45.0 grains IMR 4831 powder, Rem. 9 1/2 primer, Norma case....

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Thor96) — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:09:11 GMT

recon14 wrote:
A friend gave me some older Hornady 129 RN to use. I can't find a starting load for these anywhere. If anyone has one I can start with, please let me know. thanks

Never heard of a 129 RN. Okay, since they are old, I'm looking at an old 1971 Pacific Manual. I suspect their listing is for a spitzer, but start low and watch your pressure signs, cratered and flattened...

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (recon14) — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:58:54 GMT

A friend gave me some older Hornady 129 RN to use. I can't find a starting load for these anywhere. If anyone has one I can start with, please let me know. thanks

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Thor96) — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:43:21 GMT

Velvet, you know what I always say... if it works for you, do it.

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (velvetnsteel) — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:27:13 GMT

The Swedes love the slow powders. I used IMR-4831 until somebody said try RL-19. Thor keeps saying RL-22 is better, but the RL-19 will shoot better than I can, and I already got my loads worked out.................!!!

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Thor96) — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:02:22 GMT

recon14 wrote:
I tried some Sierras with H380 and it looked like I was shooting a shotgun at the target. I am loading up some I-4831 at 44gr with the Sierra 142 SPBT and hope to get some better accuracy. Several have told me their M96's loved the 4831 so I figured I'd give it a try. Anyone else use this powder and what results did you have? Bob

It's what I started with in the Swede and held a...

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (recon14) — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:38:43 GMT

I tried some Sierras with H380 and it looked like I was shooting a shotgun at the target. I am loading up some I-4831 at 44gr with the Sierra 142 SPBT and hope to get some better accuracy. Several have told me their M96's loved the 4831 so I figured I'd give it a try. Anyone else use this powder and what results did you have? Bob

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (velvetnsteel) — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:57:44 GMT

I can attest that the Swede will kill even with a reduced load. I started my wife out on the very minimum load of RL-19 with a 120 grain Nosler BT. The recoil was very moderate and she dropped 4 or 5 whitetails before I moved her up to the load I was using.

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Thor96) — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:38:28 GMT

Jeff, I like your philosophy to always err on the side of conservative. I haven't always done that and that's what cause blown primers. But the real issue is, that was a fantastic load. I'm sure though, that as the synewave does swing, there is a corresponding sweet spot at a lower dose.

Alliant has changed. Their recipes did show my loads as max for Swedes, not modern chambers. The pet loads in 160 and 140 were 45,000 cup. But they have changed now and their...

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Jeff7mm) — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:08:31 GMT

It wasnt too hot for my rifles and the pressure listed was in the 45,000 psi according to the manual. I dont load an M96 over this level. That doesnt mean the published data was correct. I have since switched to H380 powder to simplfy loading with the Krags which are much weaker actions.

My standard practice is to check the maximum load listed from several sources and to err on the side of being conservative. A paper target doesnt know the difference and if im hunting and figure I...

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Thor96) — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:13:41 GMT

Lonnie, I was using 46 grains of RL22 behind Sierra 160 semi point. BTW, this load will produce cloverleafs in one rifle and inside a dime on another rifle. Dadblast it, Sierra dropped production of the 160. Deadly accurate. Loads were developed in cool part of Spring. My day of demise was mid August. I pierced a couple of primers and one primer fell out when I opened the chamber. Pocket hole was so wallowed, it would not take a new primer.

I had three rifles with me that day, so I...

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (lonniemike) — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:13:37 GMT

If Speer has 36grns as max using H4350 and 140grn bullets, I would think that this may be an anemic load. But this is why we have start loads and work up carfully. ?Max, over max, assume? 46, 36? H4350, IMR4350? Is Norma's 140 factory loads(at2850fps) too much pressure for the Swedes even though they use the Swede 96 actions in their testing platforms? My old #26 Hodgdon,s manual shows 45grns of H4350 as max. I believe the newest Hodgdon's has 44 grns as max now, which would agree...

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Thor96) — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:34:22 GMT

pepperbelly wrote:
my new Speer book shows the max load for a military 6.5x55 to be 36gr. Your load looks to be what they are calling for in a modern rifle. Is it safe in an M96?

Jim

Assuming you are talking about the H4350. It's close to IMR 4350 and I would consider it 2 grains over the line.

Jim, I know absolutely nothing about pistol loading, which is your expertise. I do know...

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (pepperbelly) — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:53:53 GMT

my new Speer book shows the max load for a military 6.5x55 to be 36gr. Your load looks to be what they are calling for in a modern rifle. Is it safe in an M96?

Jim

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (Jeff7mm) — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:00:13 GMT

The load is 46.0 gr of H4350 under a 140 grain Sierra. This is a MAX load in some reloading books and OVER MAX in others. It also works with the PRIVI bullets that used to be be cheap from GRAFS. There were no pressure signs in 4 different Swedes.

I have since switched to H380 in order to accomodate my Norwiegen Krags. The above load was too hot for them and they liked the H380. The Swedes dont care ,they shoot everything fed into them. You might also try some 120 gr bullets. I...

Re: Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (pepperbelly) — Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:01:56 GMT

Jeff, can you email or IM the load you worked up? How close is the one I tried?

Jim

Swede load work-up

feeds@yuku.com (pepperbelly) — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:52:07 GMT

I still haven't found any RL22 locally but may have a line on some. Until then I am going with what I do have. This won't be a clasical load work-up yet since I have 2 Swedes- one M96 and an M38 and I need to see if the same load works in both.
I have 3 powder choices- H4895, H4350 and Varget. I have the latest Speer book. I bought it since they seperate the older military surplus rifle data from the modern rifle data. I will be adding a Sierra book when Cabela's gets one in...